oh it's another knockoff of another rhythm game that's gotten popular
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Erm... no? I'd hardly call this a "knockoff", it has some interesting ideas that I haven't seen anywhere else. Namely:
=limiting the buttons you need to press to just two; most DDR-likes have four buttons (but there's some exceptions)
=a huge swath of "beat" types; most DDR-likes only have "hit" and "hold", whereas this game has lots of different types of things. (Admittedly, some are better than others)
=switching up the visual indicators for the beat types, i.e. whenever the screen transitions.
But even if it was a typical run-of-the-mill DDR clone, I'd still say this has value. Its beatmaps are (mostly) really solidly designed, the visuals are good, the audio is great, and the execution is just really great in general. Saying that two games with the same concept are virtually identical is like saying a Jeep is virtually identical to a Ferrari (both of them are cars, right?).
(Also, if you think this game ripped off Friday Night Funkin', then... I recommend doing research into Dance Dance Revolution, though you might not like what you find).
you just made a whole essay what the f.ck
I think they were referring to Muse Dash, which seems extremely similar gameplay-wise (Muse Dash also being obviously inspired by other rythm games). That being said, I personally prefer the aesthetics of Unbeatable.
Oh, you're probably right! After looking up Muse Dash, I have to agree that this game is very, VERY similar to Muse Dash. Like, "hey, can I copy your homework?" similar. While I agree that Unbeatable has more polish (probably), I don't really like the blatant copy/paste they did with the gameplay system. If they were upfront with it, e.g. "We were heavily inspired by Muse Dash", I wouldn't mind. But I think that, intentionally or not, they're trying to sell a product that's less original than it implicitly claims to be.
I'll reach out to the developers for clarification.
EDIT: They sent me an email response. They point out that;
=The game started development 6 months before Muse Dash released.
=They think their system has far more complexity than MD
=They’re adding in a full fledged RPG mode
=Pero Pero (the Muse Dash developers) follow Unbeatable on Twitter, so they’re aware of the game’s existence
I think all of their points are pretty valid, so I’ll un-retract my first post.
Anyways, this was a really weird rabbit hole to go down, but I’m glad that I have the answers now.
While yes there are other rhythm games out there this one is quite unique, and also the amount of effort and detail that has been put onto this game putting it in the same category of a knockoff is just sad.
Oh yeah, because one person made a rythm game that means no one else can make a rythm game, because it's a knock-off and rip-off.
Very nice way to think, congratulation.
Correct, last time i checked, fnf wasn't the first rhythm game, It even says HATSUNE MIKU biggest inspiration, (hatsune has a rhythm game)
Alena Ekital, explain what rhythm game, watch you dumb ass get it wrong.
This game is really fun, and I'd highly recommend it to anyone who enjoys rhythm games, but the tutorial level is a little unclear on what to do, and I just had to figure it all out on my own.
yes, this game is amazing, but if the game was more intentional with (Oh we are starting you off in the tutorial, here's a picture of what buttons do what, this beat type does this lets slow down and practice), that would make this game much better. Also feel like losing is very sudden or at least catches me off guard every time, the heart break meter needs to have like a full screen effect in order to tell the player "you are not doing good." but great game!!!!
EDIT: Played again after this comment, it's the fact that the "Heart Break" indicator is so binary. For example Guitar Hero has a meter that communicates very clearly how well or badly you are doing, that even if you are going very fast you can see oh im in middle of green or red. This game would benefit from a similar design.
holy moly- This game is amazing!
This game is honestly super amazing! The music is super catchy and the gameplay is hard yet still fun to play. fnf has some competition lol!
Woah i didnt know there was a better game hen fnf!
Great game! Keep up the good work!
I would like to know if the game will be available on other platforms?
I love this game's visuals so much! The artwork for the maps and sprites is absolutely stunning! The charting is also beautiful! Also, as a note, if in the future you can add keybinding options as well as an offset/key input setting that would be awesome! I always felt that my timing for hitting notes was always a tad too early, which may be my/ my keyboard's fault of course. Again, it's an amazing game. I will definitely be excited about updates!
I am loving this game. As someone who. has recently gotten into video game development and loves music, this game is great! I really love how simple the mechanics may seem as it's just jumping up and down but then you make it more complex with the different enemy types!
The only thing I was wondering is whether you will also make a mac build if the game is successful? It would be great to play this on the go!
I had a super fun time with this demo! I can't wait for the full release! Mirror is my song so far~
please make it available for macbook!!
can you make a chrome version?
Hey team, amazing job! I'm enjoying the hell out of the demo and already mastering the songs. The game is incredible.
As an apointment, I don't know if this has already been discovered or fixed, but in v1.01, if you pause just at the beginning of a song, the camera shake effect get over the pause menu indefinitely. It is way more aggresive than how the gif shows it.
We're aware of the bug and are still trying to fix it. Thank you for giving our game a shot!
the game works o n 32 fps ?
i need a 32 bits version aaaa
Unfortunately, 32-bit development has ended for newer Unity versions, so we cannot develop a version for 32-bit systems, sorry :(
Really fun demo so far! Hope you guys implement rebindable controls like Mush Dash has it.
lmao sooooo on the blue notes that go down and up and vice versa. I spammed for em and ended up just being stuck in the void waiting. The notes didn't move and the only thing I could do was hit high and low. stuck on 66% T_T. restarted and was fine but just thought was something you'd wanna know
It makes the fans go 100% in. Need fix
Cap the framerate maybe or enable V-sync. By the way it would be nice if there was a 144FPS option.
PLEASE let me turn off the filters and vfx- I know the option is there but it doesn't do anything. I would love this game to death if my eyes didn't explode.
Try V1.0B and see if it works! It worked in previous builds, so something in the settings must had gone bork
This game is so fun and beautiful! Keep it up with this work, and thanks for sharing it with all of us!!
Damn guys, it's AMAZING! As someone who just started making Rhythm games + music for them I hope I'll be able to make something as good as this! Keep it up and I'll def buy it when it's out :D (can't do kickstarter cause they don't do paypal :( )
I downloaded the demo as soon as i saw it was available, i got to play the introduction and replayed "propper rythm", there was no problem there until i tried cranking the dificulty up a bit, apparently the maps wont load as they are supposed to (can still control the characters but there is no music nor enemies). Tried getting the other version and the problem still remained.
Down is a reference pic so you can see what im talking about.
Profile DEMO_PROFILE auto-saved while level TEST_RHYTHM was loading
BeatmapParserEngine: osu file format v14
No spawnpoints found!
Try the V1.0B build and see if that fixes any issues!
Im used to playing muse dash so itd be nice to be able to map my controls to better fit what im a custom to but other then that its super fun.
Dang, that update fixed a ton of stuff! Good Job!!!
oi yo yo yooooo
Ігровий жанр взагалі не мій.
Але мені як на диво сподобалось.
Гарна картинка і дуже гарна музика.
put the songs on spotify
I didn't actually realize until I'd been playing for an hour that there was a menu of options between selecting a song and starting it; blurry text running off-screen reads as background graphics, not an active menu. Easy fix might be put in some sort of blinking down arrow (indicating the direction of the menu and how to access it).
Is it just me or the song Proper Rhythm (2nd song) doesn't play in 1.01? I hit the first note and then everything just stops. Seems to happen with any of the difficulty other than the Tutorial.
EDIT: Seems working just fine in 1.0B!
We have 1.0B up in the meantime as the latest version has a strange issue that seems to break on other computers (on all of our dev computers the song doesn't bug out)
Tried the demo after my friends saw the Kickstarter and recommended it to me because I've played Muse Dash before. (And this game is like Muse Dash, but coming at you from both directions!)
I mostly played on controller for my time with this demo and thought the button layout works well. I had a harder time with the keyboard controls (so echoing others on allowing button remapping).
I thought the controller rumbling in time to the music was a fun touch. It also helped me on the slower songs when sightreading.
Could the team add some kind of feedback when a note is missed during play? I find myself getting to the end of a song and noticing I've missed more notes than I realized. Having some kind of audio to indicate that I've missed a note would help me gauge which parts of a song I need to practice.
I also had issues differentiating notes and the background sometimes, but saw your comment about letting users customize colors and dim the background; both of those sound like great options!
Amazing game! I love it! The controls need some work tho and when I plugged in my controller it started to bug out, might just be my pc but yeh. Anyways I love the game and the concept! Keep up the good work :3
I'm enjoying this, but I keep getting thrown off by how close she stands to the line. Like a Perfect is when the enemy is slightly overlapping her, and then when she attacks she takes a step forward and moves past the enemy. Any time I find myself going on visuals because the beat isn't clear in the music or I haven't played a song before, I find myself consistently hitting the beats too early. I wish it was like Muse Dash, where the character is a step or so behind the line and then steps forward to hit the enemy when they attack.
Also, I'm really not a fan of the blue enemies. Sometimes they're a quick double tap and sometimes the second hit isn't until a full note or two later and there's not really any visual feedback on which it's gonna be except for the red circle after you hit them. I basically fail them every time until I've already played a song and know how they're going to react.
That said, the game is super polished and looks great. I just hope you guys iron a few things out before the full release.
I just thought that was a "me" problem. But I did have to adjust to hitting things when they were basically on me instead of when it looked like the character would be in the right place to hit it. I was always too early.
I came here to say the exact same things. Two issues, with easy fixes:
(1) Any other game I would expect her "perfect" hitbox to be forward of where it is and the actual perfect line to be taking damage because I'm overlapping an enemy. As a concrete example of the result, my gameplay gets worse when I'm looking past the middle of the screen on one-sided attack sections. This is after tuning multiple times using the delay tester with my eyes closed. Moving her back from the line or moving the line away from her (to gain appropriate separation between her and the "perfect" hitbox) would fix it.
(2) Also, yeah, all of the multi-hit enemies are lacking in sufficient cues. The fact that they're already at the line makes it seem like you should insta-attack them because they're already at the "perfect" distance; this could be solved by having them knocked back to the distance of the next beat you're expected to attack them on.
I really, really loved the game! It really got me in competitive mode, trying to complete the songs in the hardest modes and I think my favorite is proper rhythm because it is so funky!
My biggest issue with the game is the optimization :( I know it's hard to do but the GPU usage is like, 98% on my desktop and it lags on hard songs if I have anything at all open while playing it. To compare, a hard song in this game is almost as GPU intensive as when I run Doom Eternal! (2GB Graphics Card)
Also, it took me a while to find out there are more difficulty settings! The menus look amazing but I think sometimes that came to the detriment of the UX - It's hard to intuitively know what direction to press to navigate and that made me think for a good while that there were only the begginer songs in the arcade mix and a friend of mine who had already put the game down only found out about it after I told him as well.
With all that said, the love and care put into this game really shows. It's amazing and I can't wait to play the full game and listen to the songs on spotify :)
I absolutely vibe with this game and I find it extremely charming! Honestly really excited for the full release and the open world stuff you all talked about in the kickstart. However, there are few takeaways for you all as you continue to develop that would greatly improve (in my opinion) the overall game.
1) ability to re-bind keys. I am on pc and I am personally not too big on the current key setup and wish to re-bind to something similar to musedash. This is a must have for the game you are making.
2)PC menu control scheme feels weird to me. My suggestion would be having (J) for confirm and (K + esc) for back.
3) fail menu is still pause menu, so definitely give that a fix
4) better enemy introductions: took me a few tries from experimenting how to fight the blue and red enemies
5) a better ability to define enemies (maybe give them some sort of outline like red so I can see them better)
Honestly, keep up the good work! Really happy that I can try it out!
all of those are changes we'll be looking down the line if not for [white label] / ARCADE MIX, for the final game! Key rebinds are our most popular request for sure and we'll get those in soonest we can.
Those guys and their little followers can be hit by any attack, it's just about timing for them.
The + or - symbols next to your perfects don't effect your score, they just tell you how close you got to an absolute perfect hit. + means you hit it late, - means early. There's nothing special for getting a +0.00 perfect though, so don't fret too much about it.
As a huge fan of music, I'm loving this game so far! One piece of advice could be that when you start the game, could you put a slightly longer delay before you start beating up the enemies? Also, when the first two beats are slowed down but the rest are suddenly normal-paced, it kinda throws off my rhythm a bit, so maybe do something about that 😅 Other than that, this is an amazing game! I've already convinced one of my friends to download it (and become my rival) and I can't wait to see the full release!
Edit: Oh and also, maybe you can put a setting to reduce the blur? I tried playing this at 3 AM and I couldn't tell if I was just sleepy or if it's supposed to be like that ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Ran into an issue that I can't seem to replicate. When I paused at some point around the disappearing notes in the tutorial, the notes would not turn invisible, and they stood there frozen at until i reset the game. I'll be playing again later today, so I'll see if I can record it happening.
Regardless, absolutely amazing game and brilliant soundtrack! Can't wait for the full release!
This game is awesome like perfect!! One issue though- im not sure if its my laptop or not, but the pause menu pops out of nowhere and i cant get the game to continue forcing to restart the game... help pls-
That's our (not very great) GAME OVER screen when you run out of health. We'll be changing that to be a bit more specific!
Love the game and the art style! Reminds me of a very stylized and rock-centric version of Muse Dash.
Just one major request: can you give us the option to map the controls on our own? I'm not a fan of the current control scheme of the arcade mix. I'd like to be able to use the D-pad for the high notes and the face buttons for the low notes.
Ok I can't wait to try this. I love the 80's crossed over with Kill la Kill art style, and the fact that the music design pushes the limits of how hard you can hit without destroying someone's ears haha. As a listener of heavy and hard hitting music of all kinds, and a very small time musician myself on the side, I can respect this.